One firm, one rulebook, two answers
Same numbers, same firm, 54 points apart
The5ers sell Hyper Growth and Pro Growth side by side. Both publish a 10% profit target against a 6% drawdown, both cap the daily loss at 3%, both are single-phase, both are static, and both compute to a difficulty ratio of 1.67. By every number a comparison table holds, they are the same product.
Hit the daily limit on Hyper Growth and the account pauses until the next session. Hit it on Pro Growth and the attempt is over. At 1% risk per trade that is 43% against 97%.
Every published field
| Hyper Growth | Pro Growth | |
|---|---|---|
| Profit target | 10% | 10% |
| Maximum overall loss | 6% | 6% |
| Maximum daily loss | 3% | 3% |
| Drawdown type | Static | Static |
| Phases | 1 | 1 |
| Time limit | None | None |
| Difficulty ratio | 1.67 | 1.67 |
| What breaching the daily limit does | Pauses until the next session | Ends the attempt |
| Minimum trading days | None published | 3, and they must be profitable |
| Largest account | $20K | $50K |
| Profit split | Up to 100% | Starts at 75%, no maximum published |
| Fee at $5K | $260 | $52 |
Grey where the two agree, coloured where they do not. 5 of 12 rows differ, and only one of those is a rule about how you can lose.
The5ers — challenge programmes explained — read 2026-08-05
Why one word moves it 54 points
A daily limit that ends the attempt is the cap that decides the outcome, and the overall drawdown never comes into play — you are out at 3 consecutive losses on Pro Growth, well before the 6% is approached. A daily limit that only pauses cannot end anything, so the 6% becomes the only way to fail and the run you must survive lengthens to 6.
3 extra losses does not sound like much. It is, because the probability of a losing run falls away exponentially in its length rather than linearly: each additional loss you can absorb roughly halves the chance of a run that reaches it, at this win rate.
This is the same finding as FundedNext Stellar 1-Step against Hyper Growth, with the confound removed. There, a sceptic could put the gap down to anything that differs between two companies. Here both products come from one firm, one rulebook and one pricing page.
The fee tracks the odds, which is unusual
At the 3 sizes both are sold at, Hyper Growth costs between 4.5× and 5.0× Pro Growth.
| Account | Hyper Growth | Pro Growth | Multiple |
|---|---|---|---|
| $5K | $260 | $52 | 5.0× |
| $10K | $450 | $98 | 4.6× |
| $20K | $850 | $189 | 4.5× |
Across firms the sticker price is a poor guide to the odds — that is the whole finding of the cost page. Inside this one firm it tracks them closely, because The5ers are pricing the pause rather than the account. Whether 5.0× is worth 54 points is a judgement; that it is what you are paying for is not.
At smaller risk per trade
| Risk per trade | Hyper Growth | Pro Growth |
|---|---|---|
| 1% | 43% 6 losses | 97% 3 losses |
| 0.5% | 5% 12 losses | 69% 6 losses |
| 0.25% | <1% 24 losses | 9% 12 losses |
Cutting risk helps both, and it never closes the gap, because it lengthens both survivable runs at once. Run it at your own win rate.
What this does not measure
- · Assumes each trade is independent. Correlated positions — three majors against the dollar — lose together and count as one.
- · Assumes every trade risks the same amount. Raising size after a loss shortens the streak you can survive.
- · Uses your stated win rate. If that came from a demo account or a good month, the figure below is optimistic.
- · Pro Growth requires 3 trading days that are profitable — at least 0.5% of the starting balance closed in profit each. Hyper Growth publishes no minimum. That is a real difference and it is not in the figures above, which count losing runs rather than days.
- · Hyper Growth caps evaluation capital at $20K. If you want more than that from The5ers, this comparison does not apply to you.
- · Nothing here is about whether The5ers pay out. It compares the chance of being stopped by a losing streak, because that is what published rules can be made to answer.
On the numbers above
The5ers — Hyper Growth
It comes out ahead on the chance a losing streak ends the attempt, at 1% risk per trade, at 43% — 54 percentage points clear of The5ers' Pro Growth, the next best.
This is computed from the published rules, not chosen. Whichever programme wins that calculation appears here, including firms we earn nothing from, and it changes when the rules do. It says nothing about the fee, the profit split, the account ceiling, or whether the firm pays.
Questions
- What is the difference between The5ers Hyper Growth and Pro Growth?
- On the rules that govern losing, one thing. Both publish a 10% profit target, a 6% maximum overall loss, a 3% maximum daily loss, a static drawdown, one phase and no time limit — an identical difficulty ratio of 1.67. Hyper Growth pauses the account for the rest of the session when the daily limit is hit; Pro Growth ends the attempt. Everything else that differs — the fee, the largest account, the profit split, the minimum trading days — is commercial rather than a rule about how you can lose.
- Which is easier to pass?
- Hyper Growth, by 54 percentage points, and not because its published numbers are softer — they are identical. At 1% risk per trade with a 40% win rate at 2R, a trader survives 6 consecutive losses on Hyper Growth and 3 on Pro Growth, because a paused account is not a failed one. Over the trades a 10% target needs, that is roughly 43% against 97%.
- Why is Hyper Growth so much more expensive?
- Because that is what you are buying. At the 3 account sizes both are sold at, Hyper Growth costs between 4.5× and 5.0× Pro Growth — $260 against $52 on the $5K. Across firms the fee ladder is a poor guide to the odds; here, inside one firm, it tracks them closely. The5ers price the pause, which is at least honest pricing of the thing that actually matters.
- Does the difficulty ratio show any of this?
- No, and this pair is the cleanest proof. Both compute to 1.67 — total profit target divided by total drawdown allowance — because that measure only sees the published percentages. It cannot see what happens when you touch one. On Pro Growth the daily limit is the constraint that ends the attempt and the 6% drawdown never comes into play; on Hyper Growth the daily limit cannot end anything, so the 6% is the only way out.
- Is a pause always better than a fail?
- For surviving a losing streak, yes, and it is worth being precise about why: it converts a fatal event into a lost session. It costs you the rest of the day, which matters on a programme with a time limit — neither of these has one. What a pause does not do is make the overall drawdown any softer, and on both of these that cap is the same 6%.